Tuesday, July 28, 2009

“A Dispute Over Obama’s Birth Lives on in the Media”

7/25/2009
Daily Telegraph says “Barack Obama and the CIA: Why does President Pantywaist Hate America So Badly?”
Filed under: Obama @ 4:27 pm
Gerald Warner at the Daily Telegraph:

If al-Qaeda, the Taliban and the rest of the Looney Tunes brigade want to kick America to death, they had better move in quickly and grab a piece of the action before Barack Obama finishes the job himself.


Read the rest, it’s quite a good editorial.
“A Dispute Over Obama’s Birth Lives on in the Media” New York Times says, disapprovingly. Filed under: Communist, Socialist & Nazi , Demonrats , General , Obama @ 4:21 pm Wow, of all places this has hit the New York Times. But what obedient Obamanots they are. Refusing to give questioning the President’s legitimacy because he doesn’t qualify under the constitution as natural-born, Brian Stetler does little justice to the missing birth certificate subject as an “objective reporter”. He toes the ‘media matters’ line like another of Obama’s synchophants; almost to the degree of the ever emptiheaded Meatbrain at Thinkingmeat.net; who also relies on leftist sources for his one-liners and insults.

This is going to be fun.
The conspiracy theorists who have claimed for more than a year that President Obama is not a United States citizen have found receptive ears among some mainstream media figures in recent weeks.

That’s right, those wacky “birthers” are all nuts, according to Stetler, and true to Saul Alinsky’s rules for radicals, deserve little more than ridicule. In case you didn’t notice, or didn’t click on the link, “birther” is inside the link to the New York Times article.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/25/business/media/25birther.html?_r=1

That’s their favorite name for the people who are questioning Obama’s natural-born status as a U.S. citizen; “birther”. Sort of like “truther”. So how exactly does asking for Obama’s long form birth certificate and asking Obama to prove he met the requirement of being a natural-born citizen automatically make a person a “conspiracy theorist”? He doesn’t answer that question in the article, just uses that broad brush to paint media pundits that recognize it as a possible issue as more than a little bit “off”.

Of course, someone who comes into this with contempt and scorn for “birthers” is hardly an objective observer.

We read further:
Despite ample evidence to the contrary, the country’s most popular talk radio host, Rush Limbaugh, told his listeners on Tuesday that Mr. Obama “has yet to have to prove that he’s a citizen.” Lou Dobbs of CNN said that Mr. Obama should do more to dispel the claims. Larry King, also of CNN, asked guests about it. Chris Matthews debated it with guests on MSNBC, and “NBC Nightly News” even did a segment debunking the theory..

Where is this “ample evidence”, one might ask? The “ample evidence” he refers to hasn’t been produced, even after months of seeking it - THROUGH THE COURTS. Obama has, in fact, spent over $1 million avoiding answering the birth certificate question. And with whose money has he done that?

Cable news is often stretched for news in the summer, but the birth certificate case has been fueled by the combustible combination of luck, compelling video, media-savvy doubters — and an outlandish topic.

Wow it’s a short news day! They’re manufacturing news because it’s summertime!

The theory that Mr. Obama was born in Kenya, his father’s homeland, first took root among some staunchly conservative elements. In response, the Obama campaign scanned the candidate’s “certification of live birth” from Hawaii’s department of health and published it on the Internet. Numerous third parties have examined and confirmed the birth certificate and concluded that it met the requirements for citizenship.

The “theory” was confirmed by his own grandmother in Kenya who said she was present in the delivery room when Obama was born there. A Kenyan official went so far as to say they are considering celebrating his birthplace there, but needed to wait to do so until the American elections were over. And contrary to Stetler’s desire to ‘blame Bush’ or ‘blame conservatives’-it didn’t take root among staunchly conservative elements; the one who’s been at this through the courts the longest is a lifelong Democrat, Phil Berg. You can see a lot of the history on it on his site, Obama crimes.com! Another group that gave this quite a bit of airplay are PUMAs (who are disgruntled Hillary supporters). The people questioning why Obama won’t reveal his past and keeps running from it-is a diverse collection of people; just like the tea parties are a diverse collection of people; from all walks of life; from many different political positions who’ve joined together to demand an answer to the legitimate question, and it’s not going away. “Numerous third parties have examined and confirmed the birth certificate”? Oh really? Like who?

Factcheck.org, which is run by Annenberg? The Daily Kos? The Huffington Post? Why doesn’t the New York times do a little research? Because they’re clueless moonbats, that’s why. There is a difference between an original birth certificate and a “certification of live birth”, which is what they’ve used again and again as undeniable “proof”. Lou Dobbs is not asking about the “certification of live birth” that libs are touting as “proof” of Obama’s natural-born status, he’s asking about the original LONG birth certificate. Interesting, too, is the fact that Obama and his sister can’t get their stories straight and have said that he was born in two different Hawaiian hospitals, which is simply impossible. And what about all the other documents that he has refused to release?

“This smear was thoroughly debunked during the election,” said Eric Burns, the president of Media Matters for America, a liberal media monitoring organization.

Oh now there’s an objective source: “Media Matters for America”. Debunked how? Because the Daily Kos explained it away with an obvious fake document? Nowhere has the long form birth certificate been produced; and although it exists, no one has been allowed to see it. It just keeps getting more and more curious-And you can bet they’re going to continue fighting answering the question.

According to published reports, Barack Obama’s legal team has been paid over one million dollars, so far, to STOP anyone from seeing ANY of his actual identification documents, in addition to many other documents. According to the United States Justice Foundation which has also taken up this cause, there is quite a list of documents that would help Americans understand why Obama has been so cagey about his past:

•Actual long-form birth certificate (NOT an easily-forged electronic copy of a short-form document that is not even officially accepted in Hawaii)
•Passport files
•University of Chicago Law School scholarly articles
•Harvard Law Review articles
•Harvard Law School records
•Columbia University records
•Columbia University senior thesis, “Soviet Nuclear Disarmament”
•Occidental College records, including financial aid that he may have received
•Punahou School records, where Mr. Obama attended from the fifth grade until he finished high school
•Noelani Elementary School records, where Barack Obama attended kindergarten (according to the Hawaii Department of Education, students must submit a birth certificate to register — but parents may bring a passport or student visa if the child is from a foreign country)
•Complete files and schedules of his years as an Illinois state senator from 1997 to 2004
•Obama’s client list from during his time in private practice with the Chicago law firm of Davis, Miner, Barnhill and Gallard Illinois State Bar Association records
•Baptism records
•Obama/Dunham marriage license
•Obama/Dunham divorce documents
•Soetoro/Dunham marriage license
•Soetero/Dunham Adoption records
“By the way”, says the United Justice Foundation in an email, “the issue of the Occidental College records is especially pertinent. The United States Justice Foundation (USJF) served officials at Occidental College with a subpoena to produce records concerning Barack Obama’s attendance there during the 1980’s, because those records could document whether he was attending as a foreign national. You see, Mr. Obama attended the school on a scholarship — and there are questions as to whether the financial aid he received was reserved for foreign students. The Obama attorneys have bent over backward to block us. He doesn’t want anyone to see those records. He’s STILL trying to hide them; those financial records STILL have not been released.”

It sure would be good to know some of this, but don’t worry, with guys like Stetler at the New York Slimes, the Obamessiah’s propaganda machine won’t stop churning out propaganda to cover for him and to attack and ridicule his political opponents - no matter what group they identify with.

But advocates of the issue, who are sometimes termed birthers, called attention to themselves through frequent calls to talk radio shows, e-mail messages to news organizations and a videotaped question at a Congressional town hall. Since mid-July, Mr. Dobbs has discussed it repeatedly on his radio show and on TV, emphasizing that he believes Mr. Obama is a citizen, while wondering in particular why Mr. Obama has not provided a fuller copy of his birth certificate so that “all of this nonsense goes away.” Mr. Dobbs’s coverage has been criticized by Media Matters and other organizations.

Oh good, I’m glad to see we didn’t miss the actual “birther” smear in this article, it somehow makes it complete for me in terms of the ideology of the writer. Oh that evil Lou Dobbs and those evil conservatives are so wrong for keeping this alive; they, like Sarah Palin, should just SHUT UP!

Well of course he’s been criticized by Media Matters - that’s what they’re there for - criticizing their political opponents and derailing people from looking at the facts! Read about Media Matters at Discover the Networks! Media matters is one of Meatbrain-the clueless’s main sources; and Meatbrain is an admitted socialist.

In an e-mail message to Mr. Dobbs’s producers on Thursday, Jon Klein, the president of CNN’s domestic networks, wrote that “it seems this story is dead — because anyone who still is not convinced doesn’t really have a legitimate beef.”

Is that so? That might be true for people who want to rewrite the constitution, but it’s not true for regular folks who believe in it. Obama has gone out of his way spending over a million dollars avoiding answering the birth certificate/natural-born question. A law firm connected with Obama spent three years before he ran for president, researching how they were going to deal with this issue. The fact is, being natural-born is one of the requirements of a United States Presidential candidate; and if in fact it is proven that he is not a natural-born citizen, he isn’t a citizen at all if he didn’t go through naturalization, which means he wasn’t eligible to be a Senator or to serve in Springfield, either. This is a huge can of worms which, understandably, they’re trying to diffuse with deceptive smears–and the more they continue avoiding the issue, the more it’s going to be a major concern. Blaming conservatives for this is like blaming Bush for today’s economic problems…it doesn’t past muster. All kinds of people are interested in this; not just conservatives.

In an interview Friday, Mr. Klein said the e-mail message should not be interpreted as an order to stop debating the subject. He defended Mr. Dobbs’s broadcast, saying that “what we do here all the time is dig into the truth about all kinds of controversial issues.”

Hamburg, Pennsylvania Billboard sign reads “Where’s the Birth Certificate?”

The only place where this can be solved is through the courts as far as I can tell. But with today’s activist judges, the Constitution is the last thing on their minds. Contrary to what the judges so far have ruled; every American citizen has standing to question this. WorldnetDaily’s petition to see Obama’s birth certificate as of this writing has 425,000 people signed onto it. The billboard campaign “where’s the birth certificate” has gained quite a bit of steam, too. (click here to donate to this worthwhile campaign)

The claims about Mr. Obama’s citizenship have percolated on the Internet and on right-leaning radio talk shows for months. But from more mainstream outlets, “the coverage has been minuscule” until this month, said Philip J. Berg, a lawyer who has challenged Mr. Obama’s citizenship in a number of lawsuits, unsuccessfully to date..


Yeah it’s all on the internet and from rightwingers. Who’d you get that from, David Axelrod?

Why no mention of all the court cases besides Berg’s? Here’s a list from Bob Unruh’s column from July 13, 2009 at WorldnetDaily “Eligibility Arguments To Get Court Hearing: For 1st time, we have a judge who’s listening” discussing the case the Orly Taitz filed in California on the behalf of Alan Keyes and others, charging Obama is a “usurper”. Here are some of the other court cases Unruh cites:

•New Jersey attorney Mario Apuzzo has filed a case on behalf of Charles Kerchner and others alleging Congress didn’t properly ascertain that Obama is qualified to hold the office of president.
•Pennsylvania Democrat Philip Berg has three cases pending, including Berg vs. Obama in the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, a separate Berg vs. Obama case alleging he wasn’t qualified even to be U.S. senator and Hollister vs. Soetoro a/k/a Obama, (now dismissed) brought on behalf of a retired military member who could be facing recall to active duty by Obama.
•Leo Donofrio of New Jersey filed a lawsuit claiming Obama’s dual citizenship disqualified him from serving as president. His case was considered in conference by the U.S. Supreme Court but denied a full hearing.
•Cort Wrotnowski filed suit against Connecticut’s secretary of state, making a similar argument to Donofrio. His case was considered in conference by the U.S. Supreme Court, but was denied a full hearing.
•Former presidential candidate Alan Keyes headlines a list of people filing a suit in California, in a case handled by the United States Justice Foundation, that asks the secretary of state to refuse to allow the state’s 55 Electoral College votes to be cast in the 2008 presidential election until Obama verifies his eligibility to hold the office. The case is pending, and lawyers are seeking the public’s support.
•Chicago lawyer Andy Martin sought legal action requiring Hawaii Gov. Linda Lingle to release Obama’s vital statistics record. The case was dismissed by Hawaii Circuit Court Judge Bert Ayabe.
•Lt. Col. Donald Sullivan sought a temporary restraining order to stop the Electoral College vote in North Carolina until Barack Obama’s eligibility could be confirmed, alleging doubt about Obama’s citizenship. His case was denied.
•In Ohio, David M. Neal sued to force the secretary of state to request documents from the Federal Elections Commission, the Democratic National Committee, the Ohio Democratic Party and Obama to show the presidential candidate was born in Hawaii. The case was denied.
•Also in Ohio, there was the Greenberg v. Brunner case which ended when the judge threatened to assess all case costs against the plaintiff.
•In Washington state, Steven Marquis sued the secretary of state seeking a determination on Obama’s citizenship. The case was denied.
•In Georgia, Rev. Tom Terry asked the state Supreme Court to authenticate Obama’s birth certificate. His request for an injunction against Georgia’s secretary of state was denied by Georgia Superior Court Judge Jerry W. Baxter.
•California attorney Orly Taitz has brought a case, Lightfoot vs. Bowen, on behalf of Gail Lightfoot, the vice presidential candidate on the ballot with Ron Paul, four electors and two registered voters. She also has brought forward several other cases and has conducted several public campaigns to generate awareness of the issue.
•In Texas, Darrel Hunter vs. Obama later was dismissed.
•In Ohio, Gordon Stamper vs. U.S. later was dismissed.
•In Texas, Brockhausen vs. Andrade.
•In Washington, L. Charles Cohen vs. Obama.
•In Hawaii, Keyes vs. Lingle, dismissed.
In addition, other cases cited on the RightSideofLife blog as raising questions about Obama’s eligibility include:

•In Texas, Darrel Hunter vs. Obama later was dismissed.
•In Ohio, Gordon Stamper vs. U.S. later was dismissed.
•In Texas, Brockhausen vs. Andrade.
•In Washington, L. Charles Cohen vs. Obama.
That’s not even a complete list, but it gives you an idea as to the outrage that’s growing on this one issue - and we’re not even talking about his policies.

Mr. Berg added: “If I could file a lawsuit against the national media, including The New York Times, I would do that, because I think you’ve all done an injustice by not covering Obama.”

He is so right, add this to the long list of items that the NYT has reported with a partisan view and you’ve got the reason why they’re losing readers and subscribers. They are virtually state-run media, and all they seem to be able to talk about is how “cool” he is, and how anyone who disagrees is a racist. I’m actually waiting for the NYT and other failing media to receive stimulus bailout money to keep them afloat; and that would make it official.

Phil Griffin, the president of MSNBC, said the week’s recurrent cable news coverage was set off by two back-to-back events: the introduction of a bill that would require presidential candidates to provide a copy of their original birth certificate (it has nine sponsors in the House and one in the Senate), and the video of a town hall held by a Republican representative that turned into a hearing on Mr. Obama’s citizenship.

You can just feel him fuming at those ignorant redneck “republicans” here. Of course, Obama’s followers don’t care what he does; they made it clear when Larry Sinclair was on his “take it to the streets” tour. They didn’t care when they heard about Obama smoking crack in the back of a limo in 1999 with Larry and had homosexual sex - WHILE HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN SPRINGFIELD. Obama hasn’t released his phone records or his calendar for that week in early November 1999.

And notice how quickly he distanced himself from his mentor of 20 years, Reverend Wright. There are questionable connections between Obama, Reverend Wright and the murdered gay choir director of Trinity United Church of Christ, Donald Young. Common sense has been replaced for many people by blind adulation; but that doesn’t mean normal people should stop asking questions.

At the town hall in late June, the representative, Michael N. Castle of Delaware, was angrily questioned by a woman who said of Obama, “he is not an American citizen, he is a citizen of Kenya.” Members of the crowd applauded, and Mr. Castle was heckled when he said Mr. Obama was indeed an American citizen.

That’s because the American people know what’s going on and are disgusted.

It took more than a week for the incident to receive widespread attention but since then, “there’s been a vast uptick,” in mainstream coverage, Mr. Berg said. One notable exception is the Fox News Channel, which has hardly addressed the controversy this week.

A number of MSNBC shows, mostly in mocking tones, have covered the birthers’ claims in recent days. On “Hardball” Thursday evening, the radio talk show host G. Gordon Liddy asserted that Mr. Obama may be an “illegal alien,” leading the host Mr. Matthews to hand Mr. Liddy a photocopy of the birth certificate..

Mr. Griffin said the claims were legitimate to cover “in that there’s a segment of our population that believes this and keeps bringing it up.”

“It’s racist,” Mr. Griffin said. “Just call it for what it is.

LOL! Sure it is. It’s racist to ask Obama to prove he was natural-born and is qualified to be our President. How ridiculous.

A lot of journalists “live with this issue; we get e-mails, we get asked about it,” Brian Williams, the anchor of the “NBC Nightly News,” said on Wednesday’s broadcast.

He showed an excerpt from the YouTube video in a segment about the birthers that he said were “spreading lies” about Mr. Obama.

.And Obama and his followers are purveyors of truth?

“So many conspiracy theories, so little time,” he concluded.

.Hey Stetler - that was a real piece of crap example of journalistic integrity which is yet another reason why the NYT is nothing short of fish wrap.

From what I gather, one of Obama’s own relatives signed onto one of these lawsuits to reveal that long form birth certificate...yet the media continue with their campaign of ridicule.

1 comment:

  1. Here’s Obama’s dilemma in a nutshell (READ VERY CAREFULLY AND DIGEST):

    If BHO shows his original long form birth certificate, indeed showing he was born in Hawaii, it will also show his father was American citizen, Frank Marshall Davis, not the Kenyan/British citizen, Barack Obama Sr. While that would allow Barack Jr. to be POTUS eligible as BOTH a “citizen”/“native born citizen” AND an Article 2 “natural born citizen” — that is, born to two American citizens on American soil — it would simultaneously show he is a fraud hiding his real father — an unacceptable political debacle.

    If, on the other hand, BHO keeps hiding his original long form birth certificate — while simply repeating, without showing, he was born in Hawaii — he can still CLAIM BOTH he was born in Hawaii AND his father was the Kenyan/British Barack Obama Sr. This would enable Barack Jr. to claim he’s a “citizen”/“native born citizen” but it would mean (if a federal court would ever get around to declaring and thus far no one has standing to bring the suit) that he’s NOT an Article 2 “natural born citizen” and thus not eligible to be POTUS — a legal/constitutional debacle since all acts under an illegal POTUS are void.

    So it seems, BHO has elected option one until forced to go option two because for now it looks like no federal court will ever find a plaintiff with standing. (Of course, there’s the additional issue of BHO losing American citizen status if/when he became an Indonesian citizen — that is, IF he returned and was naturalized he would be a legal citizen, but would lose both native and natural born status, and, IF he returned and was not naturalized, he would be an illegal immigrant unlawfully in this country — but we’ll leave that for another day.)

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